In this episode, co-hosts Scott Morris and Jackson Lynch tackle a provocative topic where they take a different stance than most HR leaders: the difference between psychological safety and comfort at work. Jackson argues that organizations have confused safety with comfort, leading to declining standards and avoided conversations. Scott initially pushes back, insisting you can’t have high performance without safety. Together, they explore how to build environments that are honest rather than comfortable, where tough feedback strengthens rather than threatens relationships. They share frameworks for having difficult performance conversations, discuss former Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll’s “Tell the Truth Monday” approach, and explain why clarity must come before comfort if organizations want to drive real business outcomes.
If you’re thinking about how to build trust in the moment you need to have a tough performance conversation, you have waited too long.
– Scott Morris
Three Key Takeaways
Safety Doesn’t Mean Comfort – Organizations have shifted from protecting employees from physical harm and harassment to protecting them from discomfort, which prevents the honest conversations necessary for high performance. True psychological safety means you can challenge ideas, make mistakes, and receive tough feedback without losing your place on the team.
Trust Must Be Built Before It’s Needed – If you’re worried about how to build trust during a difficult performance conversation, you’ve waited too long. The currency of honest feedback is trust built during normal times through consistent small conversations, not manufactured in the moment of crisis.
Clarity Over Comfort Saves Careers – When managers avoid uncomfortable feedback to preserve employee comfort, they often doom that employee’s future. Jackson shares a story of an HR team member who lost her job during downsizing because no one gave her fixable feedback in time, proving that choosing comfort over clarity is the opposite of kindness.
Practical Advice
The Two-by-Two-by-One Framework for Regular Conversations:
Mark Efron’s approach helps managers build trust and provide continuous feedback through small, consistent conversations:
Two Things Going Well – Reinforce positive performance tied to outcomes
Two Things to Change – Identify specific behaviors or approaches that need adjustment
One Thing I Can Remove – Ask what obstacles you can eliminate without removing their accountability
Have these conversations weekly, biweekly, or monthly depending on your context. This prevents the need for major “come to Jesus” moments.
Setting Up Difficult Performance Conversations:
When you must have a significant performance conversation, frame it as an investment:
Acknowledge Your Discomfort – “I’m going to have a conversation with you about your performance that will make me feel uncomfortable because I want to do it well”
State Your Investment – “This feedback is so important to your future here that I need to give it to you so you can make course corrections in time to thrive”
Invite Clarity – “If I say something unclear, you have an obligation to ask for clarification. Let’s make sure we’re on the same page”
Call Out the Problem, Not the Person – Be precise: “I don’t like that you did that, but that is not a fatal flaw for you”
Remember: The conversation should turn from punishment to investment almost overnight when you lead with vulnerability and frame feedback as essential to their success.
Want More?
“The Best Team Wins” by Adam Robinson – Explores building high-performance teams through clarity and accountability in talent management
What Is Psychological Safety? – Amy Edmondson’s foundational insights on creating environments where candid feedback and honest mistakes are welcomed (Harvard Business Review, February 2023)
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